Max Landis on GREMLINS 2: THE NEW BATCH

TFH Fearless Leader Joe Dante's off the wall sequel to his 1984 smash (which he often refers to as "a medley of my hit") moves its Looney Tunes action from the small backlot town of the original to The Big Apple, where the titular monsters overrun a futuristic (for 1990) office building and end their occupation with a spirited rendition of "New York New York". Heavily influenced by Olson & Johnson's Hellzapoppin, it was released a full six years after Gremlins and proved less potent at the box office but popular enough to engender a spirited fanbase. Warners nixed Dante's preferred title, GREMLINS 2, PEOPLE 0.

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Hello, I'm Max Landis and I'm already

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Hello, I'm Max Landis and I'm already
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laughing because today I will be talking

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laughing because today I will be talking
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about the movie that I have seen more

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about the movie that I have seen more
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times than any other movie. I might have

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times than any other movie. I might have
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seen this film a hundred times and

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seen this film a hundred times and
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that's because there was a point uh from

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that's because there was a point uh from
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when I was like nine to when I was about

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when I was like nine to when I was about
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12 13 where I watched this movie every

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12 13 where I watched this movie every
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Friday and ate pizza and it was this for

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Friday and ate pizza and it was this for
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a while and Teenage Mutant Ninja

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a while and Teenage Mutant Ninja
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Turtles. Then it became this and John

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Turtles. Then it became this and John
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Carpenters The Thing, which is a weird

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Carpenters The Thing, which is a weird
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pairing. Uh, Weekend at Bernie's got in

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pairing. Uh, Weekend at Bernie's got in
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there, too. Um, but this movie to me,

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there, too. Um, but this movie to me,
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other than maybe

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other than maybe
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uh, Transformers 2, um, to me is which

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uh, Transformers 2, um, to me is which
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is a terrible movie. This is a really

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is a terrible movie. This is a really
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good movie, but there's a clarity, a

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good movie, but there's a clarity, a
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weird clarity of purpose in it that I

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weird clarity of purpose in it that I
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have no idea still. I mean, there are

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have no idea still. I mean, there are
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lots of stories about the making of this

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lots of stories about the making of this
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movie, but I have no idea how it really

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movie, but I have no idea how it really
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happened the way it did. And I'm excited

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happened the way it did. And I'm excited
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to talk to you about it because if you

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to talk to you about it because if you
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have not seen Gremlins 2, you are

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have not seen Gremlins 2, you are
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missing out. And I want to put you in a

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missing out. And I want to put you in a
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shell, the perfect shell to witness the

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shell, the perfect shell to witness the
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vision of Clamp and its downfall via the

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vision of Clamp and its downfall via the
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Gremlins.
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Gremlins 2 is an example of a movie not

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Gremlins 2 is an example of a movie not
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literally not caring about the rules for

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literally not caring about the rules for
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what it's supposed to be because it's

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what it's supposed to be because it's
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clearly supposed to be like a more

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clearly supposed to be like a more
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commercial slicker version of Gremlins.

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commercial slicker version of Gremlins.
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Except the way that's been siphoned is

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Except the way that's been siphoned is
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in the most insane way possible.

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in the most insane way possible.
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Gremlins 1 was kind of a horror movie.
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eerie and creepy. Gremlins 2 is a looney

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eerie and creepy. Gremlins 2 is a looney
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tune. I mean like no character in it is

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tune. I mean like no character in it is
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not does not get a laugh. There's it's

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not does not get a laugh. There's it's
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just laugh laugh the whole movie. It's

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just laugh laugh the whole movie. It's
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just so much fun. You rarely see a movie

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just so much fun. You rarely see a movie
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that feels so effortless. It's like

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that feels so effortless. It's like
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Gremlins 2 exists adjacent to Gremlins

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Gremlins 2 exists adjacent to Gremlins
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1, cherrypicking all of the silliness

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1, cherrypicking all of the silliness
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from Gremlins 1 and then taking all the

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from Gremlins 1 and then taking all the
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serious parts of it and making fun of

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serious parts of it and making fun of
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them. It's like someone said, "It's a

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them. It's like someone said, "It's a
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family film. Make like the funny version

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family film. Make like the funny version
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of Gremlins." But Gremlins is the funny

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of Gremlins." But Gremlins is the funny
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version of Gremlins. So instead, like

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version of Gremlins. So instead, like
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they like pulled out everything that

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they like pulled out everything that
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made it like sort of frightening and

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made it like sort of frightening and
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sincere and took it in this other

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sincere and took it in this other
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direction that is equally sincere but

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direction that is equally sincere but
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