Martin Scorsese on LAWRENCE OF ARABIA

Martin Scorsese discusses David Lean's LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, which had its Los Angeles Premiere on December 21, 1962. The film won seven Oscars, including Best Director and Best Picture, and ranks number 5 on AFI's Top 100 Films List.

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there it is up on the screen in 70

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there it is up on the screen in 70
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millimeter and the main character has

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millimeter and the main character has
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not been her it's not a saint it's not a

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not been her it's not a saint it's not a
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man struggling to come to terms with the

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man struggling to come to terms with the
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with God and in his soul and in his

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with God and in his soul and in his
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heart it's a character that really in a

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heart it's a character that really in a
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way comes out of a b-movie I think a man

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way comes out of a b-movie I think a man
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is really filled with the unmoor in a

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is really filled with the unmoor in a
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way he's filled with self-destruction

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way he's filled with self-destruction
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and self-loathing I think and say this

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and self-loathing I think and say this
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is fascinating to me he's constantly

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is fascinating to me he's constantly
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testing himself pushing himself yeah

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testing himself pushing himself yeah
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putting his finger on the flame is just

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putting his finger on the flame is just
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one thing but then going through the

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one thing but then going through the
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desert and going back out what is he

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desert and going back out what is he
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trying to prove what is he fighting

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trying to prove what is he fighting
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about himself and there it is up there

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about himself and there it is up there
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giant screen and the clue is right in

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giant screen and the clue is right in
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the beginning on the credits because the

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the beginning on the credits because the
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credits is a man getting out of bicycles

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credits is a man getting out of bicycles
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and the name of the film is lawns of

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and the name of the film is lawns of
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Arabia why are we in the desert and

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Arabia why are we in the desert and
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instead it's a bicycle it's in England

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instead it's a bicycle it's in England
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not a bicycle a motorbike it's in

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not a bicycle a motorbike it's in
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England and I remember handheld shots

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England and I remember handheld shots
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and 70 millimeter point of view with the

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and 70 millimeter point of view with the
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point of view of lawns Arabia on the

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point of view of lawns Arabia on the
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bike you know and then of course he dies

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bike you know and then of course he dies
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and the film is told in flashback but it

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and the film is told in flashback but it
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was the first film to play around with

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was the first film to play around with
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this very difficult character character

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this very difficult character character
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was very complex a character that

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was very complex a character that
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reminded me in an interesting way of the

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reminded me in an interesting way of the
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film version of Joseph Conrad's outcast

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film version of Joseph Conrad's outcast
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of the islands by Cal Reed Trevor

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of the islands by Cal Reed Trevor
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Howards character and that was just a

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Howards character and that was just a
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you know man it was just so

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you know man it was just so
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self-destructive anybody who believed in

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self-destructive anybody who believed in
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him so God the Father giving him played

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him so God the Father giving him played
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by Ralph Richardson giving him grace and

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by Ralph Richardson giving him grace and
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he always throws it back in his face you

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he always throws it back in his face you
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know he disgraces him you know and at

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know he disgraces him you know and at
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one point Ralph Richardson does tell him

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one point Ralph Richardson does tell him
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on the island says you are my disgrace

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on the island says you are my disgrace
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and you get a sense of that in Lawrence

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and you get a sense of that in Lawrence
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it's an odd film because it never seemed

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it's an odd film because it never seemed
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to be finished the film I can't tell you

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to be finished the film I can't tell you
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what the ending is it seems to go on and

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what the ending is it seems to go on and
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on he's in a Jeep and he sees him the

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on he's in a Jeep and he sees him the
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camels go by and he sort of wishes he

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camels go by and he sort of wishes he
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was there I guess that's the end so in a

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was there I guess that's the end so in a
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funny way whenever that film is always

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funny way whenever that film is always
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open to be viewed again and again

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open to be viewed again and again
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because there's so many scene it's kind

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because there's so many scene it's kind
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of a it's kind of structure 'less in a

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of a it's kind of structure 'less in a
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way and maybe that some people would say

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way and maybe that some people would say
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that that's a negative aspect of it I

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that that's a negative aspect of it I
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don't know maybe that's a fault I don't

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don't know maybe that's a fault I don't
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know maybe it's proven that way because

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know maybe it's proven that way because
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the restoration was finally made David

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the restoration was finally made David
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lien was still putting in more scenes

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lien was still putting in more scenes
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he's claimed he had never really

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he's claimed he had never really
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finished editing the film you know which

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finished editing the film you know which
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