Steven Spielberg 1977 interview

Steven Spielberg is interviewed in 1977 by Claire Olsen for the Canadian series "Show Biz", just as "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" was about to be released.

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Close Encounters of the Third Kind

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Close Encounters of the Third Kind
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exploits the great interest in

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exploits the great interest in
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unidentified flying objects all over the

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unidentified flying objects all over the
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world there's great controversy over the

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world there's great controversy over the
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origin of these objects are they of

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origin of these objects are they of
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extraterrestrial nature why is there so

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extraterrestrial nature why is there so
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little scientific evidence is government

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little scientific evidence is government
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coverup involved Close Encounters was

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coverup involved Close Encounters was
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written and directed by Steven Spielberg

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written and directed by Steven Spielberg
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who was 29 years old at the time and had

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who was 29 years old at the time and had
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already produced Jaws an all-time box

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already produced Jaws an all-time box
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office Champion Clare Olsen interviewed

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office Champion Clare Olsen interviewed
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Steven Spielberg in Hollywood right

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Steven Spielberg in Hollywood right
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after after the release of Close

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after after the release of Close
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Encounters of the Third Kind feedback is

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terrific and and some of the people who

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terrific and and some of the people who
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have had UFO encounters do you know tell

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have had UFO encounters do you know tell
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me that uh it's very similar to the

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me that uh it's very similar to the
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kinds of encounters that are in the film

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kinds of encounters that are in the film
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but of course the kinds of encounters

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but of course the kinds of encounters
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that are in my film are based in part on

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that are in my film are based in part on
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the experiences of a kind of

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the experiences of a kind of
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cross-section of people throughout the

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cross-section of people throughout the
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country who claim to have had second

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country who claim to have had second
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kind encounters first kind encounter and

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kind encounters first kind encounter and
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Third Kind encounters and Third Kind

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Third Kind encounters and Third Kind
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encounters now you you worked with Jay

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encounters now you you worked with Jay
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Allen heinik at what point did you

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Allen heinik at what point did you
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consult him and how much did he

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consult him and how much did he
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influence you in in in writing this the

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influence you in in in writing this the
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screenplay well the screenplay was

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screenplay well the screenplay was
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written and and and uh ready to shoot

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written and and and uh ready to shoot
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before I met Dr heiney and uh Dr heiney

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before I met Dr heiney and uh Dr heiney
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kind of met me because I had uh uh

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kind of met me because I had uh uh
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called the picture close encounters from

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called the picture close encounters from
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the Third Kind thinking that because DR

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the Third Kind thinking that because DR
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heinik had written a a non-fiction

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heinik had written a a non-fiction
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uh a book almost a a newspaper account

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uh a book almost a a newspaper account
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of different experiences throughout the

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of different experiences throughout the
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country that it would be okay to use his

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country that it would be okay to use his
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title but it wasn't and Dr hany called

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title but it wasn't and Dr hany called
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me and said no that's my title and we

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me and said no that's my title and we
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got together and met in Chicago and

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got together and met in Chicago and
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liked each other immediately and I said

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liked each other immediately and I said
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could you be the technical advisor on

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could you be the technical advisor on
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Clos Encounters of the Third time which

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Clos Encounters of the Third time which
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he was very happy to do and then then he

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he was very happy to do and then then he
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read the script and showed me some

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read the script and showed me some
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errors I had made uh where things were

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errors I had made uh where things were
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maybe stretching the imagination of uh

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maybe stretching the imagination of uh
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UFO Buffs a little too for and he uh

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UFO Buffs a little too for and he uh
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from that moment on he became our our

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from that moment on he became our our
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Aid and Confidant and consultant my

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Aid and Confidant and consultant my
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husband was really into flying saucers

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husband was really into flying saucers
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in the 50s and people laughed at him

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in the 50s and people laughed at him
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flying saucers a funny word but but I

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flying saucers a funny word but but I
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mean is that anything like UFO well

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mean is that anything like UFO well
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flying saucers that's the that's the

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flying saucers that's the that's the
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derisive way of of of referring to a

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derisive way of of of referring to a
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phenomena which still doesn't have uh uh

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phenomena which still doesn't have uh uh
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any real explanation uh I think there is

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any real explanation uh I think there is
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a scientific basis to the mystery there

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a scientific basis to the mystery there
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really is no way to describe what is

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really is no way to describe what is
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going on no one really knows at least I

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going on no one really knows at least I
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and but uh UFO is is is in a way the

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and but uh UFO is is is in a way the
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that's the class act when you're talking

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that's the class act when you're talking
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about something that you might want to

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about something that you might want to
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take seriously even if you don't even if

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take seriously even if you don't even if
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if you're tongue is partially in your

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if you're tongue is partially in your
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cheek uh it's something that I think has

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cheek uh it's something that I think has
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enough going for it to uh to kind of

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enough going for it to uh to kind of
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like overcome that you know that 50s uh

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like overcome that you know that 50s uh
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pop culture uh laugh at you know

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pop culture uh laugh at you know
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syndrome do you take it seriously I do

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syndrome do you take it seriously I do
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take it seriously I really do I don't I

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take it seriously I really do I don't I
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don't know if if I believe that UFOs are

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don't know if if I believe that UFOs are
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extraterrestrial uh because I I'm the

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extraterrestrial uh because I I'm the
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kind of person who has to have a close

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kind of person who has to have a close
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encounter myself before I can positively

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encounter myself before I can positively
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say this is uh something that I'm going

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say this is uh something that I'm going
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to uh get on a soap box and proze and

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to uh get on a soap box and proze and
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convince people you know they're out

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convince people you know they're out
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there and we should be receptive to it

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there and we should be receptive to it
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um until that time I have to take sort

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um until that time I have to take sort
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of a third party you know

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of a third party you know
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position but um I think there's there's

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position but um I think there's there's
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there have been enough sober reports

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there have been enough sober reports
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from very reliable multiple

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from very reliable multiple
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witness individuals who have all seen

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witness individuals who have all seen
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these things uh all over the world not

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these things uh all over the world not
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just in this country but all through

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just in this country but all through
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Canada all through France all through

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Canada all through France all through
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Brazil Australia you name it there there

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Brazil Australia you name it there there
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really for every U uh in a way for me

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really for every U uh in a way for me
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for every uh you couple hundred square

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for every uh you couple hundred square
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miles of land in this country that there

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miles of land in this country that there
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are UFO reports well uh your own

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are UFO reports well uh your own
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President Carter reported a UFO sighting

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President Carter reported a UFO sighting
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twice has he seen the picture year uh

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twice has he seen the picture year uh
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last uh Saturday what do you think he

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last uh Saturday what do you think he
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has we haven't heard the direct feedback

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has we haven't heard the direct feedback
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we hear he liked it quite a bit we

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we hear he liked it quite a bit we
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haven't really heard directly from the

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haven't really heard directly from the
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president in view of the fact that your

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president in view of the fact that your
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own president has cited it reported it

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own president has cited it reported it
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why is it that so many responsible

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why is it that so many responsible
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people accuse the US government of of

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people accuse the US government of of
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covering up UFO sightings and and why

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covering up UFO sightings and and why
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would the US why would the the forces or

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would the US why would the the forces or
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the government try to do that it it's

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the government try to do that it it's
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very popular today because of Watergate

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very popular today because of Watergate
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to blame the government for anything

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to blame the government for anything
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that we think we should know about that

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that we think we should know about that
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we don't know about uh Dr heinik has

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we don't know about uh Dr heinik has
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referred to uh UFOs in America as a

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referred to uh UFOs in America as a
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cosmic Watergate

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cosmic Watergate
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um there there are several reasons why

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um there there are several reasons why
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the government could be you know

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the government could be you know
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withholding information beyond the the

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withholding information beyond the the
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Freedom of Information Act uh the

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Freedom of Information Act uh the
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Robertson panel the convened in the

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early 50s decided that UFOs were not

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early 50s decided that UFOs were not
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were were not a threat to our national

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were were not a threat to our national
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security but could be a threat to our

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security but could be a threat to our
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national sec secur by clogging all the

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national sec secur by clogging all the
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proper channels of communication

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creating rumors during the Cold War when

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creating rumors during the Cold War when
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we were already frightened of the

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arriving in 18 and a 12

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arriving in 18 and a 12
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minutes uh and the government was afraid

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that too many UFO reports could be

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that too many UFO reports could be
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misleading could mislead our own

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facilities our own norat facilities into

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uncorrelated Target could be in fact an

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incoming missile and they didn't want to
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confuse UFOs with a threat from
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